論 meaning and stroke order

lùn

Debate; discussion

Strokes15
Pinyinlùn
ToneTone 4
Frequency#1,947

How to write 論, stroke by stroke

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Meaning of 論

Definitions from CC-CEDICT, grouped by pronunciation.

lùnfourth tone (falling)
  1. opinion
  2. view
  3. theory
  4. doctrine
  5. to discuss
  6. to talk about

How 論 is built

Ideographic (compound meaning) character. Speech 言 that explains the logic 侖; 侖 also provides the pronunciation.

Radical: 言 (words), shared by 155 characters on this site.

How to remember 論

論 puts speech 言 next to 侖, which suggests orderly logic. When you speak 言 in a well-ordered way 侖, you are making an argument or discussing an idea. 侖 also hints at the sound lùn.

論 appears mostly in compounds about discussion and ideas, such as 讨论 (tǎolùn) to discuss, 理论 (lǐlùn) theory, and 结论 (jiélùn) conclusion. It also forms 无论 (wúlùn) and 不论 (bùlùn), meaning no matter what. Example: 我们明天讨论这个问题。(Wǒmen míngtiān tǎolùn zhège wèntí.) We will discuss this problem tomorrow.

Common mistake: Learners often confuse 論 with 輪 (lún, wheel) and 倫 (lún, human relations), which share 侖 but have different left parts. Only 論 has the speech radical 言, and it is fourth tone lùn, not second tone.

Common words with 論

Ordered by HSK level, then by how often they appear in everyday Chinese.

WordPinyinMeaningLevel
討論tǎolùnto discuss; to talk overHSK 2
理論lǐlùntheory; to argueHSK 3
不論bùlùnwhatever; no matter what (who, how etc)HSK 3
無論wúlùnno matter what or how; regardless of whether...HSK 4
結論jiélùnconclusion; verdictHSK 4
論文lùnwénpaper; treatiseHSK 4
爭論zhēnglùnto argue; to debateHSK 4
辯論biànlùndebate; argumentHSK 4
議論yìlùnto comment; to talk aboutHSK 4
評論pínglùnto comment on; to discussHSK 5
談論tánlùnto discuss; to talk aboutHSK 7-9
無論如何wúlùn-rúhé(idiom) whatever the case; in any event; no matter what; by all possible meansHSK 7-9
言論yánlùnexpression of opinion; viewsHSK 7-9
論壇lùntánforum (for discussion)HSK 7-9

Questions about 論

How many strokes are in 論?

論 is written with 15 strokes. The diagrams on this page number every stroke in the order it is written, with the new stroke shown in red.

What does 論 mean?

論 (lùn) means debate; discussion. A common word with it is 讨论 (tǎolùn), meaning "to discuss; to talk over".

How do you pronounce 論?

論 is pronounced lùn, in the fourth tone (falling).

What is the radical of 論?

The radical of 論 is 言, which carries the idea of "words". Dictionaries list 論 under this radical.

What is the simplified form of 論?

論 is a traditional character. Its simplified form is 论, used in mainland China and Singapore.

What is the difference between 無論 and 不論?

Both mean no matter what or regardless, and both are usually followed by 都 or 也. 無論 (wúlùn) sounds a little more formal, while 不論 (bùlùn) is common in everyday speech.

How do you say thesis or research paper using 論?

Use 論文 (lùnwén), which covers academic papers, theses, and dissertations. A graduation thesis is 畢業論文 (bìyè lùnwén).