论 meaning and stroke order

lùn

Debate; discussion

Strokes6
Pinyinlùn
ToneTone 4
Frequency#462

How to write 论, stroke by stroke

6 strokes in order. Each box adds the next stroke in red. Write top to bottom and left to right, and finish enclosing strokes last.

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Meaning of 论

Definitions from CC-CEDICT, grouped by pronunciation.

lùnfourth tone (falling)
  1. opinion
  2. view
  3. theory
  4. doctrine
  5. to discuss
  6. to talk about

How 论 is built

Ideographic (compound meaning) character. Speech 讠 that explains the logic 仑; 仑 also provides the pronunciation.

Radical: 讠 (words), shared by 144 characters on this site.

How to remember 论

The speech radical 讠 sits next to 仑 (lún), which suggests orderly logic. Speech that follows logic is a discussion or an argument, and 仑 also gives the sound lùn.

论 rarely stands alone in daily speech and mostly appears in words like 讨论 (tǎolùn, to discuss), 理论 (lǐlùn, theory), and 结论 (jiélùn, conclusion). Example: 我们明天讨论这个问题。(Wǒmen míngtiān tǎolùn zhège wèntí.) We will discuss this question tomorrow.

Common mistake: Learners often mix up 论 (lùn) with 轮 (lún, wheel; turn), which shares 仑 but uses the vehicle radical 车. Also keep the fourth tone in 论, since 仑 and 轮 are second tone.

Common words with 论

Ordered by HSK level, then by how often they appear in everyday Chinese.

WordPinyinMeaningLevel
讨论tǎolùnto discuss; to talk overHSK 2
理论lǐlùntheory; to argueHSK 3
不论bùlùnwhatever; no matter what (who, how etc)HSK 3
无论wúlùnno matter what or how; regardless of whether...HSK 4
结论jiélùnconclusion; verdictHSK 4
论文lùnwénpaper; treatiseHSK 4
争论zhēnglùnto argue; to debateHSK 4
辩论biànlùndebate; argumentHSK 4
议论yìlùnto comment; to talk aboutHSK 4
评论pínglùnto comment on; to discussHSK 5
谈论tánlùnto discuss; to talk aboutHSK 7-9
无论如何wúlùn-rúhé(idiom) whatever the case; in any event; no matter what; by all possible meansHSK 7-9
言论yánlùnexpression of opinion; viewsHSK 7-9
论坛lùntánforum (for discussion)HSK 7-9

论 in example sentences

Real sentences from the Tatoeba project, with pinyin and English.

无wú论lùn如rú何hé,我wǒ们men也yě帮bāng不bù了liǎo他tā。
At any rate, we have no means of helping him.
不bù论lùn你nǐ有yǒu没méi有yǒu钱qián,我wǒ都dōu爱ài你nǐ。
It doesn't matter whether you have money or not. I love you just the same.
他tā就jiù是shì我wǒ谈tán论lùn过guò得de那nà个ge人rén。
He is the man we were talking about.
无wú论lùn我wǒ做zuò什shén么me,你nǐ都dōu不bù高gāo兴xìng。
You won't be happy no matter what I do.
我wǒ们men需xū要yào尽jǐn早zǎo谈tán论lùn那nà件jiàn事shì。
We need to talk about that as soon as possible.

Questions about 论

How many strokes are in 论?

论 is written with 6 strokes. The diagrams on this page number every stroke in the order it is written, with the new stroke shown in red.

What does 论 mean?

论 (lùn) means debate; discussion. A common word with it is 讨论 (tǎolùn), meaning "to discuss; to talk over".

How do you pronounce 论?

论 is pronounced lùn, in the fourth tone (falling).

What is the radical of 论?

The radical of 论 is 讠, which carries the idea of "words". Dictionaries list 论 under this radical.

What is the traditional form of 论?

The traditional form of 论 is 論. Traditional characters are used in Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau; 论 is the simplified form used in mainland China and Singapore.

Is 论 on the HSK exam?

Yes. 论 is part of the HSK 2 character list in the HSK 3.0 standard, and you are expected to write it by hand from HSK 2.

What is the difference between 无论 and 不论?

Both mean no matter what and are usually followed by 都 or 也, as in 无论多忙,他都来 (wúlùn duō máng, tā dōu lái). 无论 sounds a bit more formal, while 不论 is slightly more common in speech. In most sentences they are interchangeable.

How is 争论 different from 辩论?

争论 (zhēnglùn) is an argument or dispute, often informal and sometimes heated. 辩论 (biànlùn) is a debate with reasoned points, like a formal debate competition.

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